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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/03/22/yassin/index.html
Missiles fired from an Israeli helicopter killed Yassin and seven others leaving a mosque.
"This morning, in a security forces operation in the northern Gaza Strip, the IDF targeted a car carrying the head of the Hamas terror organization, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, and his aides," the IDF statement said.
Britain's foreign minister called the attack "unlawful" and condemned it, as did other world leaders.
The Israeli attack on Yassin followed weeks of Israeli antiterrorist military operations into Gaza. Several Palestinians, including civilians, have died in the operations.
Israel began the counterterror raids after a terrorist bus bombing killed eight people February 22 in Jerusalem.
Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a nationalist militant offshoot of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, claimed responsibility for the bus bombing. Israel and the U.S. State Department consider Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades a terrorist organization.
Last week, twin suicide bombings jointly claimed by Hamas and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades killed 10 people and derailed scheduled talks between Sharon and Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei on the so-called "road map" to Mideast peace.
The "road map," backed by the United States, European Union, United Nations and Russia, calls for steps by both sides aimed at ending the conflict and establishing an independent Palestinian state by 2005.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/03/22/yassin/index.html
Missiles fired from an Israeli helicopter killed Yassin and seven others leaving a mosque.
"This morning, in a security forces operation in the northern Gaza Strip, the IDF targeted a car carrying the head of the Hamas terror organization, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, and his aides," the IDF statement said.
Britain's foreign minister called the attack "unlawful" and condemned it, as did other world leaders.
The Israeli attack on Yassin followed weeks of Israeli antiterrorist military operations into Gaza. Several Palestinians, including civilians, have died in the operations.
Israel began the counterterror raids after a terrorist bus bombing killed eight people February 22 in Jerusalem.
Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a nationalist militant offshoot of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, claimed responsibility for the bus bombing. Israel and the U.S. State Department consider Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades a terrorist organization.
Last week, twin suicide bombings jointly claimed by Hamas and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades killed 10 people and derailed scheduled talks between Sharon and Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei on the so-called "road map" to Mideast peace.
The "road map," backed by the United States, European Union, United Nations and Russia, calls for steps by both sides aimed at ending the conflict and establishing an independent Palestinian state by 2005.
Oh shut the fuck up. We can go in and kill the leader of Iraq, Israel can kill whoever they want, especially if that person has been the sucking chest wound to a country that really doesn't need that shit.
Oh shut the fuck up. We can go in and kill the leader of Iraq, Israel can kill whoever they want, especially if that person has been the sucking chest wound to a country that really doesn't need that shit.
I re-affirm my stance on the Middle East:
Glass Factory. Nuke the freaking place. They have proved through thousands of years of war that they aren't capable of playing nice. Forced Natural Selection.
pwnt.
I re-affirm my stance on the Middle East:
Glass Factory. Nuke the freaking place. They have proved through thousands of years of war that they aren't capable of playing nice. Forced Natural Selection.
pwnt.
l3lizz4rd
2004.03.25, 0313
http://www.utwatch.org/images/nukes.jpg
l3lizz4rd
2004.03.25, 0313
http://www.utwatch.org/images/nukes.jpg
SierraHotel
2004.03.30, 1528
I re-affirm my stance on the Middle East:
Glass Factory. Nuke the freaking place. They have proved through thousands of years of war that they aren't capable of playing nice. Forced Natural Selection.
pwnt.
Agreed, but first we need robots that can drill the oil for us.
SierraHotel
2004.03.30, 1528
I re-affirm my stance on the Middle East:
Glass Factory. Nuke the freaking place. They have proved through thousands of years of war that they aren't capable of playing nice. Forced Natural Selection.
pwnt.
Agreed, but first we need robots that can drill the oil for us.
eccentric4
2004.03.31, 0134
we need robots that can drill the oil for us.
Seconded.
eccentric4
2004.03.31, 0134
we need robots that can drill the oil for us.
Seconded.
We need to get off the gasoline standard. And the robots mining oil thing is too Matrix-ish for me.
We need to get off the gasoline standard. And the robots mining oil thing is too Matrix-ish for me.
eccentric4
2004.03.31, 0501
we need robots that can drill the oil for us.Seconded
Seconded withdrawn...
We need to get off the gasoline standard.
Seconded...ded
eccentric4
2004.03.31, 0501
we need robots that can drill the oil for us.Seconded
Seconded withdrawn...
We need to get off the gasoline standard.
Seconded...ded
your nested quotes are inside-out...
and i agree with mvtek, that was certainly the first thing i thought of
your nested quotes are inside-out...
and i agree with mvtek, that was certainly the first thing i thought of
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/gas.html
John Kerry knows you want less dependency on oil, and he thinks you're right to want it. That's why he will unlock American ingenuity to create a sustainable energy plan developing alternative fuels and energy-efficient technology.
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/gas.html
John Kerry knows you want less dependency on oil, and he thinks you're right to want it. That's why he will unlock American ingenuity to create a sustainable energy plan developing alternative fuels and energy-efficient technology.
SierraHotel
2004.03.31, 1730
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/gas.html
John Kerry knows you want less dependency on oil, and he thinks you're right to want it. That's why he will unlock American ingenuity to create a sustainable energy plan developing alternative fuels and energy-efficient technology.
The problem is not the amount of crude. Since Russia started pumping oil non-stop in the last few years the amount of crude on the market has increased, but the gas and oil prices are going up. Short of regulation there is nothing that the US can do about the gas prices.
One stopgap would be to lower the amount of taxes on gas. On average you are paying $0.40 a gallon in taxes in Florida, the amount is higher in other states.
Note: Wouldn't vote for Kerry at all, he is nothing more than a vote pandering politician and has proved that he will saying anything to get elected.
SierraHotel
2004.03.31, 1730
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/gas.html
John Kerry knows you want less dependency on oil, and he thinks you're right to want it. That's why he will unlock American ingenuity to create a sustainable energy plan developing alternative fuels and energy-efficient technology.
The problem is not the amount of crude. Since Russia started pumping oil non-stop in the last few years the amount of crude on the market has increased, but the gas and oil prices are going up. Short of regulation there is nothing that the US can do about the gas prices.
One stopgap would be to lower the amount of taxes on gas. On average you are paying $0.40 a gallon in taxes in Florida, the amount is higher in other states.
Note: Wouldn't vote for Kerry at all, he is nothing more than a vote pandering politician and has proved that he will saying anything to get elected.
eccentric4
2004.03.31, 1753
Huh, imagine that, my apologies, I'm still remembering much form the *cough* TAO *cough* days, and have far to go...I still can't remember the Blahblah wrote: quote thingy. All in due time....
eccentric4
2004.03.31, 1753
Huh, imagine that, my apologies, I'm still remembering much form the *cough* TAO *cough* days, and have far to go...I still can't remember the Blahblah wrote: quote thingy. All in due time....
Note: Wouldn't vote for Kerry at all, he is nothing more than a vote pandering politician and has proved that he will saying anything to get elected.
This means you’re a part of the problem and not the solution. If you are so completely ignorant that you think our current president has not done the same thing then you shouldn't vote in the first place.
Sorry to be rude, but take your party's tax cuts and wipe your ass with them, because that's what they are worth. The economy doesn't need a tax credit to go buy something (which is what it was for and no one did that with it... they put it in the bank because they knew the economy would get nothing but worse). We need jobs and social programs. I'd gladly take paying more taxes if that meant that some person could have a job, get trained for a new career, and get off welfare.
This president has done the unthinkable: turned me into a Democrat.
Note: Wouldn't vote for Kerry at all, he is nothing more than a vote pandering politician and has proved that he will saying anything to get elected.
This means you’re a part of the problem and not the solution. If you are so completely ignorant that you think our current president has not done the same thing then you shouldn't vote in the first place.
Sorry to be rude, but take your party's tax cuts and wipe your ass with them, because that's what they are worth. The economy doesn't need a tax credit to go buy something (which is what it was for and no one did that with it... they put it in the bank because they knew the economy would get nothing but worse). We need jobs and social programs. I'd gladly take paying more taxes if that meant that some person could have a job, get trained for a new career, and get off welfare.
This president has done the unthinkable: turned me into a Democrat.
Huh, imagine that, my apologies, I'm still remembering much form the *cough* TAO *cough* days, and have far to go...I still can't remember the Blahblah wrote: quote thingy. All in due time....
haha, we're using exactly the same boards as we were on tao
Huh, imagine that, my apologies, I'm still remembering much form the *cough* TAO *cough* days, and have far to go...I still can't remember the Blahblah wrote: quote thingy. All in due time....
haha, we're using exactly the same boards as we were on tao
SierraHotel
2004.03.31, 1855
Social programs don't take us out of depressions/recessions, they only help ease the suffering, they don't do anything to solve the root problem.
Right now the economy is at the level it was a year before Clinton took office, I would say that Bush did pretty well since brunt of the bomb was during his first year (something he had no control over).
Yes they are both vote pandering politicians, but Bush is less of one. For the most part he has fulfilled his campaign promises (or at least attempted when it was something that he couldn't get through the law makers). Bush is someone that has pretty stood behind his decisions, unlike Kerry. (To quote the now infamous line: "I voted for the $87 million, before I voted against it.").
Myself am once again in the position to vote for the lesser of two evils, that would be Bush for me. I would love to have someone that really matches my political beliefs, but that ain't going to happen anytime soon.
SierraHotel
2004.03.31, 1855
Social programs don't take us out of depressions/recessions, they only help ease the suffering, they don't do anything to solve the root problem.
Right now the economy is at the level it was a year before Clinton took office, I would say that Bush did pretty well since brunt of the bomb was during his first year (something he had no control over).
Yes they are both vote pandering politicians, but Bush is less of one. For the most part he has fulfilled his campaign promises (or at least attempted when it was something that he couldn't get through the law makers). Bush is someone that has pretty stood behind his decisions, unlike Kerry. (To quote the now infamous line: "I voted for the $87 million, before I voted against it.").
Myself am once again in the position to vote for the lesser of two evils, that would be Bush for me. I would love to have someone that really matches my political beliefs, but that ain't going to happen anytime soon.
Typical Republican remark blaming Clinton. I'm not going to point fingers though, no administration is perfect. All I can point out is that we had a SURPLUS at the end of the Clinton Administration... and he got his pole licked… fine work there if you ask me. At the end of the Bush Administration... well... that's another story.
Oh... and speaking of political banter and antics... have you possibly seen the rush of ad campaigns for the Bush re-election? Talk about dirty tactics... least they could do is start out with trying to outline something good Bush has done... oh no... wait... they can't do that because he hasn't done shit. So all they CAN do it attack Kerry. Silly Republicans.
Typical Republican remark blaming Clinton. I'm not going to point fingers though, no administration is perfect. All I can point out is that we had a SURPLUS at the end of the Clinton Administration... and he got his pole licked… fine work there if you ask me. At the end of the Bush Administration... well... that's another story.
Oh... and speaking of political banter and antics... have you possibly seen the rush of ad campaigns for the Bush re-election? Talk about dirty tactics... least they could do is start out with trying to outline something good Bush has done... oh no... wait... they can't do that because he hasn't done shit. So all they CAN do it attack Kerry. Silly Republicans.
ooh! we're talking about politics!
i know a good one!
<VOmitOry> I have a problem, every file i download gets corrupted, anyone know why? :o
<kn1ves> is your computer republican?
ooh! we're talking about politics!
i know a good one!
<VOmitOry> I have a problem, every file i download gets corrupted, anyone know why? :o
<kn1ves> is your computer republican?
ControlledBurn
2004.03.31, 1915
Typical Republican remark blaming Clinton. I'm not going to point fingers though, no administration is perfect. All I can point out is that we had a SURPLUS at the end of the Clinton Administration... and he got his pole licked… fine work there if you ask me. At the end of the Bush Administration... well... that's another story.
Oh... and speaking of political banter and antics... have you possibly seen the rush of ad campaigns for the Bush re-election? Talk about dirty tactics... least they could do is start out with trying to outline something good Bush has done... oh no... wait... they can't do that because he hasn't done shit. So all they CAN do it attack Kerry. Silly Republicans.
There's plenty of ad-campaigns that attack Bush in every way shape and form.....In fact, that's all I've seen thus far advocating anyone.
ControlledBurn
2004.03.31, 1915
Typical Republican remark blaming Clinton. I'm not going to point fingers though, no administration is perfect. All I can point out is that we had a SURPLUS at the end of the Clinton Administration... and he got his pole licked… fine work there if you ask me. At the end of the Bush Administration... well... that's another story.
Oh... and speaking of political banter and antics... have you possibly seen the rush of ad campaigns for the Bush re-election? Talk about dirty tactics... least they could do is start out with trying to outline something good Bush has done... oh no... wait... they can't do that because he hasn't done shit. So all they CAN do it attack Kerry. Silly Republicans.
There's plenty of ad-campaigns that attack Bush in every way shape and form.....In fact, that's all I've seen thus far advocating anyone.
I would say that Bush did pretty well since brunt of the bomb was during his first year (something he had no control over).
Read a newspaper. Then come back with a real, grown-up, educated opinion, okay? Thanks.
I would say that Bush did pretty well since brunt of the bomb was during his first year (something he had no control over).
Read a newspaper. Then come back with a real, grown-up, educated opinion, okay? Thanks.
ControlledBurn
2004.03.31, 2127
I would say that Bush did pretty well since brunt of the bomb was during his first year (something he had no control over).
Read a newspaper. Then come back with a real, grown-up, educated opinion, okay? Thanks.
Don't be such a knee-jerk left-wing self-righteous crazy, then post political stuff. If you're going to bash someone's opinion, then back it up with some facts.
ControlledBurn
2004.03.31, 2127
I would say that Bush did pretty well since brunt of the bomb was during his first year (something he had no control over).
Read a newspaper. Then come back with a real, grown-up, educated opinion, okay? Thanks.
Don't be such a knee-jerk left-wing self-righteous crazy, then post political stuff. If you're going to bash someone's opinion, then back it up with some facts.
I have a fact.
Bush sucks.
I have a fact.
Bush sucks.
1) Front page of MSN today:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4639380/
2) CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/22/9.11.warnings.facts/index.html
3) Countless other discussions I've had with governmental figures from other countries - Syria, Libya, Israel, Iran - at the UN. And I hope everyone here is wise enough to not give the "UN = Wet Noodle" bullshit.
1) Front page of MSN today:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4639380/
2) CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/22/9.11.warnings.facts/index.html
3) Countless other discussions I've had with governmental figures from other countries - Syria, Libya, Israel, Iran - at the UN. And I hope everyone here is wise enough to not give the "UN = Wet Noodle" bullshit.
eccentric4
2004.03.31, 2238
haha, we're using exactly the same boards as we were on tao
Yup, I know! I just can't remember jack about it! That's what a summer of no-posting'll do to ya...
Heh, nevermind, enough fiddling and I get it eventually :-D Yay! I remembered the BlahBlah wrote: thingy! Yippee!
eccentric4
2004.03.31, 2238
haha, we're using exactly the same boards as we were on tao
Yup, I know! I just can't remember jack about it! That's what a summer of no-posting'll do to ya...
Heh, nevermind, enough fiddling and I get it eventually :-D Yay! I remembered the BlahBlah wrote: thingy! Yippee!
SierraHotel
2004.04.01, 1458
Typical Republican remark blaming Clinton...
How is:
"Right now the economy is at the level it was a year before Clinton took office" <-- Also I mis wrote a year before Bush took office, is what I meant.
Blaming Clinton, simply pointing out the fact that the stock market and unemployment level are at the same point they were under Clinton. And every newspaper said things were peachy then(2000).
Clarke's testimony is questionable, first under the Bush Administration he was downgraded (his position was cabinet level under Clinton), but he was moved back to the State Department under Bush.
Second he has a book out, and many of the things in his book contradict his own words, official State Department records, and the reporting of many very good reporters including Bob Woodward (the reporter that broke Watergate).
Third and probably the most important, in his book he claims that he was a very senior level official in all of the planning meetings, but that wouldn't have been possible for his position in the State Department.
Trigger: Iran can goto hell. In fact if given the opportunity I would gladly turn the key to make that country into a glass factory.
Yes, if this or that, lined up ever so perfectly. There are hundreds of little ways that could have prevented 9/11, but few of them were ready for Bush to implement. The report that Clarke likes to trumpet (that he says he got finished before 9/11, which he is right, it was submitted 9/10 according to State Department records), wouldn't have made a difference.
Clinton was the only President that could have made a major difference to prevent 9/11, and he said (paraphrasing, don't have the transcript) "The country wasn't ready to take a preemptive action," and even after 9/11, the country wasn't willing to do it. Not blaming Clinton simply stating the truth, which is there is little that the President, Clinton or Bush, could have done to prevent 9/11. If the intelligence services had been working together, or the INS had done their jobs right then it might have been prevented.
SierraHotel
2004.04.01, 1458
Typical Republican remark blaming Clinton...
How is:
"Right now the economy is at the level it was a year before Clinton took office" <-- Also I mis wrote a year before Bush took office, is what I meant.
Blaming Clinton, simply pointing out the fact that the stock market and unemployment level are at the same point they were under Clinton. And every newspaper said things were peachy then(2000).
Clarke's testimony is questionable, first under the Bush Administration he was downgraded (his position was cabinet level under Clinton), but he was moved back to the State Department under Bush.
Second he has a book out, and many of the things in his book contradict his own words, official State Department records, and the reporting of many very good reporters including Bob Woodward (the reporter that broke Watergate).
Third and probably the most important, in his book he claims that he was a very senior level official in all of the planning meetings, but that wouldn't have been possible for his position in the State Department.
Trigger: Iran can goto hell. In fact if given the opportunity I would gladly turn the key to make that country into a glass factory.
Yes, if this or that, lined up ever so perfectly. There are hundreds of little ways that could have prevented 9/11, but few of them were ready for Bush to implement. The report that Clarke likes to trumpet (that he says he got finished before 9/11, which he is right, it was submitted 9/10 according to State Department records), wouldn't have made a difference.
Clinton was the only President that could have made a major difference to prevent 9/11, and he said (paraphrasing, don't have the transcript) "The country wasn't ready to take a preemptive action," and even after 9/11, the country wasn't willing to do it. Not blaming Clinton simply stating the truth, which is there is little that the President, Clinton or Bush, could have done to prevent 9/11. If the intelligence services had been working together, or the INS had done their jobs right then it might have been prevented.
eccentric4
2004.04.01, 2320
I agree with SH...there is little Clinton could've done...think about it... Put yourself back a few years, America has a great economy, low unemployment, etc. etc. We were on our high horse. Do you think that if one day, Clinton got on television, and said to the country, "My fellow Americans, tomorrow, I'm going to bomb a man in Afghanistan that you've probably never heard of, named Osama bin Laden. He is a bad bad man," that ANYONE in this country would support this idea, except those in the 'know'? No, just as Americans were torn about the Iraq war, they'd of not wanted anything to do with this bin Laden guy. But 9/11 happened, it wasn't prevented, we learned our lesson, and now, I hope we're just a LITTLE bit more prepared if/when something else happens.
I'll also agree that Bush has been doing a bang up job, all things considered. The economy, unemployment and all that jazz may not be what it was, but it's better than a few years ago. And yes, there was a "surplus" while Clinton was in office, but it wasn't technically a surplus. Now, in 2004, we've gotta choose between an Andrew Jackson lookalike and a Curious George lookalike. The choice couldn't be worse, unless Ross Perot was involved. Of these two individuals, I'm sad to say Bush is the lesser of the two evils. Kerry has to long of a wishy-washy how-much-for-my-vote record in Congress. If you listen to him, everything he says is a contradiction. Of course, Bush utters many contradictions, but that's more of a result of he just can't say anything well.
"It takes time to restore chaos to chaos" ~Curious George, about Iraq
eccentric4
2004.04.01, 2320
I agree with SH...there is little Clinton could've done...think about it... Put yourself back a few years, America has a great economy, low unemployment, etc. etc. We were on our high horse. Do you think that if one day, Clinton got on television, and said to the country, "My fellow Americans, tomorrow, I'm going to bomb a man in Afghanistan that you've probably never heard of, named Osama bin Laden. He is a bad bad man," that ANYONE in this country would support this idea, except those in the 'know'? No, just as Americans were torn about the Iraq war, they'd of not wanted anything to do with this bin Laden guy. But 9/11 happened, it wasn't prevented, we learned our lesson, and now, I hope we're just a LITTLE bit more prepared if/when something else happens.
I'll also agree that Bush has been doing a bang up job, all things considered. The economy, unemployment and all that jazz may not be what it was, but it's better than a few years ago. And yes, there was a "surplus" while Clinton was in office, but it wasn't technically a surplus. Now, in 2004, we've gotta choose between an Andrew Jackson lookalike and a Curious George lookalike. The choice couldn't be worse, unless Ross Perot was involved. Of these two individuals, I'm sad to say Bush is the lesser of the two evils. Kerry has to long of a wishy-washy how-much-for-my-vote record in Congress. If you listen to him, everything he says is a contradiction. Of course, Bush utters many contradictions, but that's more of a result of he just can't say anything well.
"It takes time to restore chaos to chaos" ~Curious George, about Iraq
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