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Mo_Steel
2005.06.01, 0133
Zatozia Writes:
The engineering process to supercede Empire rivals is a ceaseless one. One such refinement that is coming in the near future is the availability of a Liberator Bomber variant - the Vulture.

Vulture: Close Support Bomber
This aircraft variant is a specialization of the Liberator designed to work in support of ground troops in clearing out enemy armor units. The Liberator has been lightened, with a smaller payload of bombs and ammunition. The engine systems and air control surfaces have been modified to include a small afterburn thrust with the loss of the pilot down view camera, slightly better top speed and slightly better handling. The bomber only has access to tank busting AV bombs and no AI bomblets. The rear facing 25mm remains unchanged. The forward mounted 35mm receives a complete overhaul, including an impressive rate of fire increase and more focused AV damage (and less AI / AA per round). However, the clip empties in a short amount of time and has a long reload process.

The intent of all these changes toward close air support operations. Target areas can be defined by forward troop recon or high flight pass over. Once targets have been identified, the Vulture comes in fast and low, saturating enemy armor with the heavy burst from the nose cannon, then popping up to give the bomber a clean salvo drop of AV rounds. If the target is still moving, the rear mounted 25mm can work to finish the job as the Vulture clears the area of hostility with heavy use of its available afterburner.

Certainly, this activity can be pulled off with the current Liberator. However, success in such operations heavily depends on available terrain to quickly move behind and block AA fire, which is not always there. The Vulture can make up for this through better handling, afterburn and weapon systems better designed toward these activities.

Only experienced Liberator pilots will be cleared for use of the Vulture. Obtaining one from a flight vehicle terminal will require not only the Air Support certification, but also a Bomber Ace III or higher Merit Commendation.

Source (http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=inconcept&message.id=954#M954)

I think it's a great way to give Lib bombers something new and specialized, as I've always felt Lib bombing against tanks was near impossible unless your target was AFK.

Basicly, it'll have similar requirements to the Flight Variant: You'll need the certification, and Bomber Ace III or higher.

Man your guns, cause I bet we'll see an increase in bombers in the next few months. I know I'm going to cert it.

mag
2005.06.01, 0202
Was just reading up on this, slightly disappointed that they're not going to make a new model for it...

Mo_Steel
2005.06.01, 0417
Well, while a new model would be nice, I don't mind using an old model so long as it functions as intended.

MasterCalaelen
2005.06.01, 1005
Sounds pretty nice =)

Hayoo
2005.06.01, 1143
Mmmmmmm. Low-flying AA bait. Good thing I recerted AV.

myrtar
2005.06.01, 1549
neat. i'm surprised at new vehicles, given sam's past thoughts on them (phantasm), but i'm not complainin'.

MasterCalaelen
2005.06.01, 1555
Added it to the wiki as far as I could.

Vulture

Mo_Steel
2005.06.02, 1237
Mmmmmmm. Low-flying AA bait. Good thing I recerted AV.

Yeah, I hope they increase the armor. AA MAXes are going to have a field day otherwise.

IncomingFire
2005.06.02, 2222
they say they lightened it so its unlikely more armor was added (although not completely unlikely)

myrtar
2005.06.02, 2339
hm... i think adding armor will increase staying power, and with that beefed-up nosegun, that won't be a good idea.

it should be forced to make fast, low passes, as the description mentions.

Mo_Steel
2005.06.03, 0110
hm... i think adding armor will increase staying power, and with that beefed-up nosegun, that won't be a good idea.

it should be forced to make fast, low passes, as the description mentions.

Granted. I suppose I'll see how it performs before suggesting anything. :)

Breed
2005.06.03, 1309
Hey guys, long time no see!

I think this new variant will be an interesting addition to the planetside vehicle list, with both positive and negative feedbacks from players.
Some of you say it should have increased armour, i must unfortunatly disagree; whilst they will be flying a lot closer to the ground, their firepower sounds substantial and the addition of an afterburner makes it more of a tactical bomber than a heavy hitting carpet bomber.

Let's wait and see how it performs in battle, i imagine it will be tweaked a little bit after it's initial release but it's role on the battlefield is a sound one; close aerial AV support.

myrtar
2005.06.03, 1500
wb breed.

also, there're a LOT of libs in the air right now, it's pretty sweet. i'm one of them, i don't like the idea of not having access to a vehicle.

Mo_Steel
2005.06.03, 1955
Heh yeah, forgot about them afterburner additions.

And yeah, was getting ganked a lot by pilot only bombers, don't think the 35mm counts towards the merit though does it?

myrtar
2005.06.03, 2046
nope, sure doesn't. only tailgunner and bombadier kills count.

Unregistered
2005.06.08, 1824
they have something like that, its called the reaver

Sputty
2005.06.08, 2123
WTF
Why didn't they make a Reaver gunship? I want to stab someone
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