ANT Transport

[Pyrotechnic]

Name:ATU - ANT Transport Unit (open to suggestions)
Occupants: 1 Driver, (poss. + gunner/s, see below), 1 ANT (+driver)
Weapons: Not decided (open to suggestions)
Desciption: 75% as fast as an ANT but 2x the armour, used to transport ANT's to and from WG's when it would be too dangerous to take just the ANT. Useful when a GAL is not available.
Requires: Ground Support Cert.
Images:
Front (http://www.pyrotechnic.hostultra.com/PS/Truck/TruckRender_01.jpg)
Back (http://www.pyrotechnic.hostultra.com/PS/Truck/TruckRender_02.jpg)

[DviddLeff]

Nice images.

Although, Id like to see some guns on the thing ;)

[Pyrotechnic]

What, where and how many? :).

[DviddLeff]

Just enough to scare stuff off, like harasser 12mm perhaps?

[Pyrotechnic]

Front 2 (http://www.pyrotechnic.hostultra.com/PS/Truck/TruckRender_03.jpg) - Added lights, bull-bars and a 12mm MG on each side.

[piolet68654]

once again the CONCEPT feels odly farmiliar :o

[Earlydawn]

Interesting.

[Hayoo]

Originally posted by piolet68654@Dec 23 2004, 11:29 PM
once again the CONCEPT feels odly farmiliar :o
Well the concept, just like a large percentage of any concept for Planetside, is as old as the game itself. But it's pretty exciting when each of us brings a new twist or visual design that fleshes out the concept even more with each version.

So nice render, Pyro.

Could this vehicle be carried by a Lodestar? And is the ANT the only light vehicle that it can transport?

[piolet68654]

yeah nice modols
i doubt a loadstr could carry that, its a little big, how many gunners does it have?

[Earlydawn]

Originally posted by Hayoo+Dec 24 2004, 03:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hayoo @ Dec 24 2004, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-piolet68654@Dec 23 2004, 11:29 PM
once again the CONCEPT feels odly farmiliar :o
Could this vehicle be carried by a Lodestar? And is the ANT the only light vehicle that it can transport? [/b][/quote]
Can I put a box in the box in the box? :P

[Hayoo]

Originally posted by Earlydawn+Dec 24 2004, 07:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Earlydawn @ Dec 24 2004, 07:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Hayoo@Dec 24 2004, 03:48 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-piolet68654@Dec 23 2004, 11:29 PM
once again the CONCEPT feels odly farmiliar :o
Could this vehicle be carried by a Lodestar? And is the ANT the only light vehicle that it can transport?
Can I put a box in the box in the box? :P [/b][/quote]
LOL. Yes! A weak box in a strong box in a flying box. :lol: That does sound a bit silly, doesn't it.

[Desructo]

I have another idea maybe like a coverted sundy via removing max spots and adding a cargo hold to hold the ANT.

[Pyrotechnic]

Could this vehicle be carried by a Lodestar? And is the ANT the only light vehicle that it can transport?No, it's a bit big for a Lodestar, and chances are if you can get a Lodey you can get a GAL instead.how many gunners does it have?2 at the moment, 1 on each side. It would need a 3rd if I add a gun center, top, rear. What do you think?

[piolet68654]

personoly i would perfer 2 top guns because side guns usually have limited manuvering, unless you want the unprotected back to be a weakness

[Pyrotechnic]

Well, each gun has a bit more than half a sphere of movement each side, so the LOF's cross a little behind the truck, so if you're a good driver you can follow really close and not get hit. Though, the GAL does have 3 guns ( you can stay above the rear gun though I think?) I suppose as a weakness it would be good, after all, cutting off a NTU supply is a widely used tactic, you can't implement unstoppable delivery vehicles.
And is the ANT the only light vehicle that it can transport?Well, I suppose not, as long as it's smaller than an ANT (ie harasser[sp?] is wider) but I don't see much point of carrying anything else ;).

[Pyrotechnic]

Bored :). Extended the sticky out bits (pontoons?).

Hit Diagram (http://www.pyrotechnic.hostultra.com/PS/Truck/TruckHit.jpg)

I think the top one should be bigger, isn't it bigger than a Lightning?

[Pyrotechnic]

Front (http://www.pyrotechnic.hostultra.com/PS/Truck/TruckRender_04.jpg)
Rear (http://www.pyrotechnic.hostultra.com/PS/Truck/TruckRender_05.jpg)

Added a gun at the rear, extended the bull-bar.

[Hayoo]

Originally posted by Pyrotechnic@Dec 27 2004, 08:15 PM
Bored :). Extended the sticky out bits (pontoons?).

Hit Diagram (http://www.pyrotechnic.hostultra.com/PS/Truck/TruckHit.jpg)


Nice. :)

I think the top one should be bigger, isn't it bigger than a Lightning?


You mean the harrasser? I think it's smaller than the lightning. When I was making the top-down images I lined up all the vehicles and took screenshots for scale, like the one below. You don't realize just how massive the Sunderer is until you drive it next to a Deliverer. :)

http://www.planetside-idealab.com/images/vehiclescale.jpg

[Pyrotechnic]

Hmm, maybe it is, weird :blink:. Yeah, Sundys are huge.

[EDIT]: Just noticed the top-notch job of the terrain texture tiling :huh:.

[Hayoo]

Originally posted by Pyrotechnic@Dec 27 2004, 10:03 PM
[EDIT]: Just noticed the top-notch job of the terrain texture tiling :huh:.
lol. Yeah, those are all over the place. :P

[firestormrct]

Great ideas, BUT... (the infamous butt, i mean but)
I dont like the Idea of a Box in a box at all. If you want more armor in an ANT just get in a fricken Lodestar, you'll get the benefit of being able to fly too. And getting in the box just to get in the lodestar pointless as the armor value of a vehicle inside a lodestar dosn't matter unless you bail, but then you wouldn't be in the Lodestar would you?

[Pyrotechnic]

But this just needs ground support cert, no tech plant, no dropship center.

[firestormrct]

Originally posted by Pyrotechnic@Dec 28 2004, 02:41 AM
But this just needs ground support cert, no tech plant, no dropship center.
But explain to me how a heavier box is supposed to go faster than a lighter box?
if it isn't, then i'm gonna get ANT without box every time. And anyway you'd need two pilots just to give yourself some extra armor. I'd rather just have a skyguard escort. (that's what i do when i get Skyguards, i defend ANTs, even if i get no EXP for it, because if the ANT doesn't get the juice to it's location the whole Empire loses.

[Pyrotechnic]

75% as fast as an ANTIt doesn't, it goes 3/4 the speed.
If you're defending a base and you're running out of NTU and you don't have a dropship center, then you have more chance of getting the ANT to and from the WG in one of these then you would by itself.

[firestormrct]

Originally posted by Pyrotechnic@Dec 28 2004, 03:02 AM
75% as fast as an ANTIt doesn't, it goes 3/4 the speed.
If you're defending a base and you're running out of NTU and you don't have a dropship center, then you have more chance of getting the ANT to and from the WG in one of these then you would by itself.
Chances are If you're defending a base and are already out of NTU, 2 peolpe and 75% of the ANT's speed later will make 1 less person able to defend the base and you probably won't get there in time enough. If you need more Defense, get a skyguard and a heavy tank. THEN at least you can do some damage. But chances are you'd have a better chance just having 5 people get ANTs and each take a different route, as chances are you'd be better off without the extra box.

[Hayoo]

Originally posted by firestormrct+Dec 27 2004, 10:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (firestormrct @ Dec 27 2004, 10:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Pyrotechnic@Dec 28 2004, 02:41 AM
But this just needs ground support cert, no tech plant, no dropship center.
But explain to me how a heavier box is supposed to go faster than a lighter box?
if it isn't, then i'm gonna get ANT without box every time. And anyway you'd need two pilots just to give yourself some extra armor. I'd rather just have a skyguard escort. (that's what i do when i get Skyguards, i defend ANTs, even if i get no EXP for it, because if the ANT doesn't get the juice to it's location the whole Empire loses.[/b][/quote]

Think of it as the decision one makes when transporting an LLU. You can have it in a harasser which is speedy but lightly armored. Or you can have it in a Deliverer, which is slower but has a thicker skin and a bigger bite weapon-wise.

[Pyrotechnic]

What if it went faster than an ANT? Or, went faster but you needed a cert (existing or new) Would it be worth it then?

It would be better if an ANT couldn't fill a base in 1 go, then this could be a bigger ANT, instead of carrying an ANT.

[firestormrct]

Originally posted by Hayoo+Dec 28 2004, 03:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hayoo @ Dec 28 2004, 03:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by firestormrct@Dec 27 2004, 10:47 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Pyrotechnic@Dec 28 2004, 02:41 AM
But this just needs ground support cert, no tech plant, no dropship center.
But explain to me how a heavier box is supposed to go faster than a lighter box?
if it isn't, then i'm gonna get ANT without box every time. And anyway you'd need two pilots just to give yourself some extra armor. I'd rather just have a skyguard escort. (that's what i do when i get Skyguards, i defend ANTs, even if i get no EXP for it, because if the ANT doesn't get the juice to it's location the whole Empire loses.

Think of it as the decision one makes when transporting an LLU. You can have it in a harasser which is speedy but lightly armored. Or you can have it in a Deliverer, which is slower but has a thicker skin and a bigger bite weapon-wise. [/b][/quote]
Except when you are carrying a LLU you have 15 mins and you don't usually have to go very far. Vhen it's an ANT you might have only 2 mins and you have to travel about 2.5 KM (that's at at least 75 MK/hr, do the math)
PS:'night all, 10:30 PM gotta go to bed now.

[piolet68654]

ok, origionoly i was for this idea, (BTW nice graphics Pyro)
also, i will sometimes admit defense is better than speed. so why not lower the speed of ANT by 5 KP/H and allow it to use NTU to relese EMP's like the NTU sipon on the BFR
just a suggestion,
creating a vehicle would be harder (as cool AS IT WOULD BE) editing one wont take but 3 or 4 days
http://s3.invisionfree.com/Planetside_Idea...p?showtopic=125 (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Planetside_Idealab/index.php?showtopic=125)